Respectful Debate with Yes Scotland

Debated #indyref with Blair Jenkins from YES at Inverness Town House tonight.  Here is the full text of my opening speech.

What is this debate about?

Its not about whether Scotland could be independent. 

Of course it could

Its not about kicking the coalition at the next election.

Its not even really about the pound and pensions and the EU, serious though those issues are

Its whether Scotland will be a better, fairer place to live and work as an independent country ……

…….  or with its own parliament as part of the UK

Its about what kind of country our kids and the generations after them will grow up in.

And we only get one chance to get it right……..

I’m a member of the Labour Party. 

I’m a socialist

I believe in a fair society, shared opportunity and shared rewards

I believe we can achieve a fair, just economy and society by working together not by splitting apart

I want to see a Living wage, more houses built,

Decent public service delivered by well-funded councils

No Trident 

How much more powerful will that ambition be if we can achieve it across the whole UK, for people in Liverpool and Manchester and Leicester and not just in Scotland.

When Labour introduced the National Minimum Wage it wasn’t just a Minimum Wage for Scotland.

We knew as a movement that the best way of securing the big changes in the lives of working people was to campaign and secure change right across the UK.

Pooling and sharing resources from all parts of the UK for the benefit of everyone in the UK.

I get the democratic argument

We don’t always get the government we want.

Margaret Thatcher was elected the first year I had a vote. 

What she did to our country, not just to Scotland but right across the UK shaped my politics.  I won’t forget that.

Just like I won’t forget the SNP MPs who trooped through the lobbies in Westminster to bring down a Labour government and user in 18 years of Tory rule.

The referendum is not about an alternative to another tory government.   

It’s about what kind of country our kids will grow up in.

Its not about  ‘sticking it’ to David Cameron, who will be long gone before the full consequences of independence are felt. 

It about what we might do to the prospects of future generations. 

Governments can and will be changed

There is no going back if we get it wrong as an independent country. 

This vote must be more than just idealism.  

It will have a direct impact on people’s lives and their jobs.

Of course an independent Scotland could succeed

It could bring new opportunities

But it also brings risks. 

Its not “scaremongering” to raise them. 

I don’t get wishful thinking policies which play fast and loose with economic certainty.

Promises on pensions and childcare which don’t stand up if the oil revenues fall.

Promises on corporation tax which can’t work in a currency union

Assertions on EU membership which are a leap into the unknown and which are scaring the life out of business……. 

It’s up to the Yes campaign to deal with these issues and not just label those raising them as members of Project Fear.

What’s happening under the Coalition is bad enough...

But there is NO guarantee an independent Scotland can do better.   

IF the UK government agrees to everything we want in the negotiations

IF we are able to keep the pound

IF the financial markets are kind to us....

IF we can join the EU as a new member on the same terms as now

IF the oil keeps running.....

We need to be sure the situation for jobs, pensions, public services will be better not worse.

The truth is that Scotland is subject to the same 21st century economic pressures as the rest of the world.

Independence will not create a socialist utopia overnight.

It took an independent Norway 90 years to build a decent economy

New oil revenues won’t wipe out the share of the UK deficit we’ll inherit.

Scotland will still have to compete in the same global markets, defend itself from financial predators and find a way to balance income and spending in a fragile economic recovery.

Scotland is a wealthy country if you measure it by GDP per head; but most of that wealth is earned by foreign companies. 

It’s not just sitting there for an independent Scottish Government to spend how it wants.

We already get more than our share of UK public spending per head.

But we also get Zero Hour Contracts

Ever-rising Energy Prices

Welfare Cuts

Low pay jobs that trap working people in poverty.

Why will these things suddenly be different in an independent Scotland?   

The same economic rules will still apply…..

60% of our trade is with RUK; competing will mean a race to the bottom unless we change these things right across the UK.

So let’s work together to get the UK we want.

A Living wage economy

An industrial strategy that works for the whole country and not just the South East

Decent Pensions funded by 60m people not 6m

Local authorities funded properly to deliver decent services

A Scottish Parliament with real powers over tax, spending and benefits

There is so much to change but we can achieve more far more for all our people if we work together instead of apart.

I have a better vision for Scotland

A Scotland with more powers over tax and benefits

A Scotland with No Bedroom Tax

A Scotland that insists on people in work earning a Living Wage

A Scotland that is determined young people should always be able to find work.

A Scotland that gets the benefits of being together when it comes to the pound and business but can decide for itself how it spends its national income.

A Scotland where we can all grow, prosper and succeed.

Together, I believe we can build a better Scotland and a better UK.

Together we can.

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Better Together for CEMVO

Here is the text of the speech  would have delivered for Better Together at the CEMVO debate in Inverness last night, if the organisers had got their act together....


I'd like to start by talking about what this debate is about 

Its not about whether Scotland could be independent.  Of course it could

Its not about kicking the coalition at the next election.

Its not even really about the pound and pensions and the EU, serious though those issues are

Its whether Scotland will be a better, fairer place to live and work as an independent country or with its own parliament as part of the UK

Its about what kind of country our kids and the generations after them will grow up in.

We only get one chance to get it right

I’m a member of the Labour Party. 

I’m a socialist

I believe in a fair society, shared opportunity and shared rewards

I believe we can achieve a fair, just economy and society by working together not by splitting apart

I want to see a Living wage, more houses built,

Decent public service delivered by well-funded councils

No Trident 

How much more powerful will that ambition be if we can achieve it across the whole UK, for people in Liverpool and Manchester and Leicester and not just in Scotland.

When Labour proposed the National Minimum Wage it wasn’t just a Minimum Wage for Scotland.

We knew as a movement that the best way of securing the big changes in the lives of working people was to campaign and secure change right across the UK.

We knew that the pooling and sharing of resources from all parts of the UK for the benefit of everyone in the UK was the best way of achieving it.

You don’t need told about the benefits of solidarity with other workers. You live solidarity every day.   

The same principle applies. The BME community in Scotland recognises that by working with BME communities across the UK the voice was stronger and louder and meant collective action across the UK for the benefit of BME communities across the UK.

The big struggles, big fights but the big wins you have achieved have all been as a result of your coming together and campaigning for change

The Race Relations Act

The Equal pay legislation

The Equality Act

Disability discrimination

There are still major fights to be won in tackling rising Islamophobia, racism, and sectarianism, and the greatest chance of success is by coming together and campaigning for change across the UK.

Of course an independent Scotland will bring new opportunities

But it also brings risks.  Its not “scaremongering” to raise them

What’s happening under the Coalition is bad enough...

But there is NO guarantee an independent Scotland can do better.   

IF the UK government agrees to everything we want in the negotiations

IF we are able to keep the pound

IF the financial markets are kind to us....

IF we can join the EU as a new member on the same terms as now

IF the oil keeps running.....

We need to be sure the situations for jobs, pensions, public services will be better not worse.

The truth is that Scotland is subject to the same 21st century pressures as the rest of the world.

Independence will not create a socialist utopia overnight.

New oil revenues won’t wipe out the share of the UK deficit we’ll inherit.

Scotland will still have to compete in the same global markets, defend itself from financial predators and find a way to balance income and spending in a fragile economic recovery.

Scotland is a wealthy country if you measure it by GDP per head; but most of that wealth is earned by foreign companies. 

It’s not just sitting there for an independent Scottish Government to spend how it wants.

We already get more than our share of UK public spending per head.

We also get Zero Hour Contracts

Ever-rising Energy Prices

Welfare Cuts

Part-time jobs

Minimum Wage

Why will these things suddenly be different in an independent Scotland?   The same economic rules will still apply…..

60% of our trade is with RUK; competing will mean a race to the bottom unless we change these things right across the UK.

So let’s work together to get the UK we want.

A Living wage economy

An industrial strategy that works for the whole country and not just the South East

Decent Pensions funded by 60m people not 6m

Equality

There is so much to change but we can achieve more for more people if we work together instead of apart.

I get the democratic argument

We don’t always get the government we want

Margaret Thatcher was elected the first year I had a vote. 

What she did to our country, not just to Scotland but right across the UK shaped my politics

But this is not about an alternative to another tory government.  It’s about what kind of country our kids will grow up in.

its not about  ‘sticking it’ to David Cameron, who will be long gone before the full consequences of independence are felt. 

We need to think about what we might be doing to the prospects of future generations. 

Governments can and will be changed

There is no going back if we get it wrong as an independent country. 

I have a better vision for Scotland

A Scotland with more powers over tax and benefits

A Scotland with No Bedroom Tax

A Scotland that insists on people in work earning a Living Wage

A Scotland that is determined young people should always be able to find work.

A Scotland that gets the benefits of being together when it comes to the pound and business but can decide for itself how it spends its national income.

A Scotland where we can all grow, prosper and succeed.

Together, I believe we can build a better Scotland and a better UK.

Together we can.

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Nairn IndyRef Debate

Text of my speech at the Gurn's debate in Nairn last night. On a panel with John Finnie MSP, Mary Scanlon MSP and Jean Urquhart MSP.   Not exactly as delivered as we all had to adapt to a different format on the night.  Very good debate and discussion.  Most of us agree about what we want to achieve for Scotland, we just differ about how....


There are just over 3 months to the most important decision we will ever make in this country.

So it’s good to have this debate tonight

Let me start by saying I agree with most of the things John & Jean want to achieve

I just don’t agree that independence is the best way to achieve it

Of course Scotland can “make it” as an independent country.

But what kind of country?

A land of milk and honey, a northern Celtic Tiger………

Or a small country, dependant on volatile oil revenues and the whims of a predatory financial system …..

… ask the Irish and the Icelanders how that feels …..

 I don’t want that to happen to my country

 So let me make the case for why I think we are Better Together.

 Of course it difficult to make a positive case for a negative word

 But put simply, I believe we can achieve more for Scotland as part of the UK.

 Together is better for the economy

Together is better for business and jobs

Together is better for Pensions

 Staying together means more powers for the Scottish Parliament

 Best of both worlds with least risk

 The Yes campaign keeps insisting that Better Together needs to make its case for staying as part of the UK.

As if that’s the option that needs justified…...

As if everything the YES campaign says should just be accepted at face value

The Yes campaign needs to stop making promises it knows it can’t keep.

It needs to be more honest about the risks.

The risks to our economy and the risk to jobs and livelihoods.

 It needs to put some costs on its promises.

 It’s all very well saying the UK Treasury numbers about the cost of setting up an independent government are wrong.

 But the SNP haven’t given us their numbers.


Why won’t they? And if they don’t have them what sort of preparation for independence is that?


John Swinney must know.... That’s why he wouldn’t answer on that radio interview last week. 


Alex Salmond of course doesn’t suffer from such caution.


He just made a number up…...


It’s up to the Yes campaign to deal with these issues and not just label those raising them as members of Project Fear.


Being part of the UK is good for Scotland’s small businesses. Two thirds of our trade is with rest of the UK.

Our single market means businesses can buy and sell throughout the whole of the UK without any restrictions.


Our engineering, oil, aerospace and financial services sectors all rely on supply chains integrated across the UK.


I run a small business with customers right across the UK.


Business in hard enough in a competitive world without having to trade across a border, however informal it might be.


Where is the sense in putting up barriers between Scottish businesses and their customers and suppliers elsewhere in the UK?


Today our small businesses, which are the bedrock of the Scottish economy, benefit from the strength, security and stability of the UK Pound. Only independence would put this at risk

It’s up to the Yes campaign to deal with these issues and not just label those raising them as members of Project Fear.

 I get the democratic argument.

I don’t want another Tory/Coalition government.

I get the case for devolving power to where it can make a difference.

I’d like to see local authorities given back some of the powers the SNP have taken away.

 I get the no nuclear weapons on our soil argument.

 We need nuclear weapons out of the whole country, not just moved down the coast to Barrow.

I’ll always campaign for those changes at Holyrood and across the UK.


What I don’t get is policies which play fast and loose with economic certainty.

 Promises on pensions and childcare which don’t stand up if the oil revenues fall.

 Promises on corporation tax which can’t work in a currency union

Assertions on EU membership which are in truth a leap into the unknown and are scaring the life out of business.

Wishful thinking on the pound, with no plan B

 An approach that will cost Scotland dearly when the financial markets put up interest rates.

 An approach that’s already causing business to pause on investment (B&Q) and put in place their own Plan Bs (Standard Life)

 That’s not scaremongering – that’s economic reality!

I have a better vision for Scotland

A Scotland with a with more powers over tax and benefits

 A Scotland with No Bedroom Tax

A Scotland that insists on people in work earning a Living Wage

A Scotland that is determined young people should always be able to find work.

 A Scotland that gets the benefits of being together when it comes to the pound and business but can decide for itself how it spends its national income. 

A Scotland where we can all grow, prosper and succeed.

Together, I believe we can build a better Scotland and a better UK.

Together we can.

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