Respectful Debate with Yes Scotland
Thursday, 26 June 2014
Debated #indyref with Blair Jenkins from YES at Inverness Town House tonight. Here is the full text of my opening speech.
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Mike Robb is a Labour Party activist and was the Labour Party candidate for Inverness Nairn Badenoch and Strathspey at the 2010 and 2015 General Elections.
Debated #indyref with Blair Jenkins from YES at Inverness Town House tonight. Here is the full text of my opening speech.
Here is the text of the speech would have delivered for Better Together at the CEMVO debate in Inverness last night, if the organisers had got their act together....
I'd like to start by talking about what this debate is about
Text of my speech at the Gurn's debate in Nairn last night. On a panel with John Finnie MSP, Mary Scanlon MSP and Jean Urquhart MSP. Not exactly as delivered as we all had to adapt to a different format on the night. Very good debate and discussion. Most of us agree about what we want to achieve for Scotland, we just differ about how....
There are just over 3 months to the most important decision we will ever make in this country.
So it’s good to have this debate tonight
Let me start by saying I agree with most of the things John & Jean want to achieve
I just don’t agree that independence is the best way to achieve it
Of course Scotland can “make it” as an independent country.
But what kind of country?
A land of milk and honey, a northern Celtic Tiger………
Or a small country, dependant on volatile oil revenues and the whims of a predatory financial system …..
… ask the Irish and the Icelanders how that feels …..
I don’t want that to happen to my country
So let me make the case for why I think we are Better Together.
Of course it difficult to make a positive case for a negative word
But put simply, I believe we can achieve more for Scotland as part of the UK.
Together is better for the economy
Together is better for business and jobs
Together is better for Pensions
Staying together means more powers for the Scottish Parliament
Best of both worlds with least risk
The Yes campaign keeps insisting that Better Together needs to make its case for staying as part of the UK.
As if that’s the option that needs justified…...
As if everything the YES campaign says should just be accepted at face value
The Yes campaign needs to stop making promises it knows it can’t keep.
It needs to be more honest about the risks.
The risks to our economy and the risk to jobs and livelihoods.
It needs to put some costs on its promises.
It’s all very well saying the UK Treasury numbers about the cost of setting up an independent government are wrong.
But the SNP haven’t given us their numbers.
Why won’t they? And if they don’t have them what sort of preparation for independence is that?
John Swinney must know.... That’s why he wouldn’t answer on that radio interview last week.
Alex Salmond of course doesn’t suffer from such caution.
He just made a number up…...
It’s up to the Yes campaign to deal with these issues and not just label those raising them as members of Project Fear.
Being part of the UK is good for Scotland’s small businesses. Two thirds of our trade is with rest of the UK.
Our single market means businesses can buy and sell throughout the whole of the UK without any restrictions.
Our engineering, oil, aerospace and financial services sectors all rely on supply chains integrated across the UK.
I run a small business with customers right across the UK.
Business in hard enough in a competitive world without having to trade across a border, however informal it might be.
Where is the sense in putting up barriers between Scottish businesses and their customers and suppliers elsewhere in the UK?
Today our small businesses, which are the bedrock of the Scottish economy, benefit from the strength, security and stability of the UK Pound. Only independence would put this at risk
It’s up to the Yes campaign to deal with these issues and not just label those raising them as members of Project Fear.
I get the democratic argument.
I don’t want another Tory/Coalition government.
I get the case for devolving power to where it can make a difference.
I’d like to see local authorities given back some of the powers the SNP have taken away.
I get the no nuclear weapons on our soil argument.
We need nuclear weapons out of the whole country, not just moved down the coast to Barrow.
I’ll always campaign for those changes at Holyrood and across the UK.
What I don’t get is policies which play fast and loose with economic certainty.
Promises on pensions and childcare which don’t stand up if the oil revenues fall.
Promises on corporation tax which can’t work in a currency union
Assertions on EU membership which are in truth a leap into the unknown and are scaring the life out of business.
Wishful thinking on the pound, with no plan B
An approach that will cost Scotland dearly when the financial markets put up interest rates.
An approach that’s already causing business to pause on investment (B&Q) and put in place their own Plan Bs (Standard Life)
That’s not scaremongering – that’s economic reality!
I have a better vision for Scotland
A Scotland with a with more powers over tax and benefits
A Scotland with No Bedroom Tax
A Scotland that insists on people in work earning a Living Wage
A Scotland that is determined young people should always be able to find work.
A Scotland that gets the benefits of being together when it comes to the pound and business but can decide for itself how it spends its national income.
A Scotland where we can all grow, prosper and succeed.
Together, I believe we can build a better Scotland and a better UK.
Together we can.
I was proud to represent Labour at today's very well attended launch of the Better Together campaign in Inverness, speaking alongside Mary Scanlon MSP and Danny Alexander MP. Here is the text of my speech.
Good afternoon.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak to you on behalf of Better Together
You will probably be expecting a well-rehearsed list of scare stories about independence.
Fears about access to NHS specialists, giving up the Pound, Bank of England control, can we afford our pensions?
What happens when the oil runs out?
As even John Swinney is now asking in private.
Well I'm not going to do any of that.
I want to talk about my vision for Scotland and why I think we really will be Better Together.
I’d like to start by taking Nicola Sturgeon’s advice.
In her speech in December last year, the Deputy First Minister said this:
“I ask you, as you make up your minds over these next two years, to base your decision not on how Scottish or British you feel, but on what kind of country you want Scotland to be and how best you think that can be achieved.”
Well I believe the kind of country I want Scotland to be is best delivered by progressive politics based on fairness, equal opportunity and social justice.
A Scotland with its own distinct political and economic identity but part of a socially progressive United Kingdom which shares those values.
Because we should not confuse the arguments of nationalism with those for advancing social justice.
The great advances that were struggled for and secured by working people across the UK – the Welfare State, Trades Union Rights, Equal Pay, a National Minimum Wage - were secured by the votes of working people in Cardiff, Liverpool and Newcastle, just as surely as people in Dundee, Inverness or Glasgow.
Better together means social justice is not just an ideal for Scotland but is a statement of solidarity with communities & working people across the UK.
Because socialism doesn’t stop at a border.
We need to work together to create the UK society we want or we will be the poorer for it.
Lets take the example of benefits.
The SNP prefer to blame anyone …. everyone…. rather than use the powers they already have in case it undermines the case for independence
Let’s take the Bedroom Tax as an example.
This isn't the time to talk about its fairness or otherwise
… there will be plenty of time for that between now and 2015
But the SNP have publicly stated their opposition.
They have postured with commitments to no evictions, even though they must know how difficult that is for councils and housing associations to deliver.
The wring their hands, denying their ability to do anything about it until we have independence.
Whilst they have the power NOW to help councils deal with the worst effects if they chose to do so.
But it doesnt suit their case.
So Scots can suffer until we vote the right way.
Some things work better together.
Working people need a pension system that is secure and sustainable. That will ensure a basic standard of living when you retire that won’t depend on the vagaries of the markets.
The UK system won’t make anyone rich, but it will deliver and will stand the test of time.
It works because of the scale of a UK-wide fund paid into by millions of UK workers and backed up by a government which is not dependant on highly variable oil revenues to keep pensions at a decent level.
I think that’s worth keeping.
I run a small business. My company sells its services in Scotland, and all over rhe UK.
Times are tough at home and turbulent internationally.
Businesses want certainty and stability – that’s what the current constitutional settlement allows.
The rest of the UK is Scotland’s largest export market.
We don't need the uncertainty, instability, and barriers to businesses that separation risks creating.
In these tough and turbulent times, the size, stability and opportunity of the UK economy is a huge advantage for Scotland's businesses.
We should be using that strength to invest in jobs, houses and infrastructure to grow ourselves back into economic health.
I am a proud Scot. I am ambitious for Scotland's people and Scotland's possibilities.
My case is not that Scotland could not survive as a separate country – it is that there's a better choice for our future.
A strong Scottish Parliament within the United Kingdom gives us the best of both worlds: real decision making power here in Scotland, as well as a key role in a strong and secure UK.
Scotland can prosper as a social, economic and politically devolved country…..
.. making its own choices about what works for us…
…… but able to flex its economic power as part of a joined up UK which shares the same core values.
That’s why we are Better Together.
Thank you.
Full text of my speech to the AGM of Unison Highland Branch this morning, on behalf of Better Together. With acknowedgements to Douglas Alexander MP for the inspiration!
Good morning.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak to you on
behalf of Better Together
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